Tuesday, June 6, 2023

Values of Toxic Souls and Socially Tight Groups (The Hate Narrative and Research)

A few ideas on hate this AM. Looking to see if there are potentials for solutions. We seem to be struggling with this concept of hate and we are currently in this process of dealing with such behaviors on a national level. However, on a local level we have sort of a different issue because our national values and laws don't always carry their way into local decision making. The same elements that would not be acceptable in our national arenas then become more acceptable in our local arenas. A few toxic souls split communities and do so with intent. They should not be the last voice echoing as we emerge from our cave of unawareness. Let a whisper resonate with the clarity of a gong.

Flip Flopping of Societal Values

In my life I have met accomplished humble people who have done amazing things, don't brag about it, and also not have the moral dilapidation to ask for anything, treat anyone poorly, or put themselves above others in an arrogant manner. They are amazing people who are 1 in a million to make it through their challenges and accomplish their goals (I can tell you stories of people who have seen horrors of this world and are still contributors to society. They are not the takers that rob us of our unity.). 

We know we have an issue when amazing and accomplished people are seen as not worthy of basic civility or respect because of superficial perceptions of race, religion, and social acceptance. I have stumbled across a few professional sports players, inventors, doctors, survivors and even a few extremely wealthy and influential people in my life and I have not seen the level of arrogance that I have seen among the core members of this group. I'm shocked by it and how sort of out of place it is within our modern world (I mean, it does happen but in my experience I have never seen it so bold and confident before without any accountability or backstop. That must come from years of small group socialization to norms and rules developed at a young age.) 

Some of the more vocal members of this group engage in wholesale rumor manipulation to influence their environment in ways that help their social position. You can scratch your head and think, "How did that become this and where was that connected to this? How did kids be worthy of mistreatment and how might unconscionable now become acceptable?  Why were other kids encouraged to be involve in hate based behaviors? 🤔" What you will likely find as a potential answer is that someone(s) is/are manipulating information and intentionally trying to create narratives and rumors to distance themselves from responsibility as well as create social barriers designed to block and harm their targets.

Their association with a few police officers, and general familiarity to many different officers, creates an escalated extension of risk because of the influence of distorted rumor networks that set the stage for what appears to be pseudo cleansing  behaviors (May not be psuedo, it may be full scale but I am trying to be polite about itSuch as perhaps attempting to orchestrate an arrest on Good Friday to teach ____fill in the blank______ what religion's will be allowed in "their town". It might be a sign of subconscious or conscious extremism where they are using the law as extension of seriously distorted misunderstanding of their religion and the very root values that make America free. Maybe not? 🤷) 

By deduction we come to realize that there may be a number of toxic souls pushing a story that puts all the focus on the victims "worthiness" of hate while triangulating others, official or unofficial, to be extensions of their feelings and goals (Official is the laws as intended. Corruption is not official and is shadow market behavior seen in third world  nations based on sociological fears. I can't go into that in this post because it is in and of itself could be a whole subsection of history and sociology. Its not like we should cold morally discount the tens of other millions of Americans that have also witness similar behaviors without risking low institutional trust in similar arenas. Something we are currently struggling with). Others become tools and flying monkeys within the system.

Toxic Souls and Tight Groups

Most of the people in this group are in really good people but there are a few toxic souls who prompt others on how to behave and what types of relations with "others" (i.e. some of it appears to be based in a dark triad personality trait.) I don't really blame most of the group because they were raised together and so they trust each other to the point of group irrationality. However, acting on that in any way beyond recognizing the mental health, and general maliciousness of behavior, is concerning to say the least.

While group members recognize the targets as generally polite and friendly people they have no alternative sources of information to counter the hate narrative (A distinct characteristic of intent and method.). The very purpose of ostracization as a control method that separates communities and creates segregation (The people who do this don't care about their communities or about the 60% of other Americans. They have something to gain that is both psychological and tangible. Trace each action and you will find it go back to self gain each time pathologically. If you were to dig deeper you might ask what are those goal directed behaviors? I think you will find three possibilities.). 

The same voices that dominated their conversations in childhood still dominate the group today. Its almost as though they are frozen in time and because of that homogenous isolation have not learned that their in-group perception might be a little distorted when it comes to others in the world around them (Its actually interesting to see how interpretations default back to basic false assumptions that were never questioned during the normal development process. You can tract that logic if you pay attention to the assumptions inherent within the dialogue.)

Change Your World and Change your Perception

One of the reasons why I like the Allegory of the Cave is because if you are unaware then you just don't know, what you don't know. As confusing as that may sound, to some of us know the world is full of layers of depth. One of the telling signs of how different people seem to others is through changing of environments. Through my experience I have come to recognize that the various communities and people (even here) do believe in our shared American values on a root level because they have a benefit to everyone. We all want some basic things but it is the toxic souls in our communities and in our politics (national or local) that often derail our common causes. Changing our perception from 'American' and "American" as separate into a single shared identity is helpful. Its hard to sell to some.

 (I'm adding the single quote mark ' to the first word because neither of the pendulum perceptions are truly accurate. There is some sociological justification in other studies why that occurs. I'm now using the term American as a fuller conception of 'American' and "American" as anchored to Our Shared Principles. I won't use caps there either because I guess that the term such as AMERICAN PRINCIPLES or OUR PRINCIPLES infuriates some members of this corrupted network.  Perhaps they didn't want our American principles to be noticeable and emboldened. Maybe they want those values to be in the back ground and not emboldened in our conscious. 🤷 

If you have been following the writings for a while you will kind of understand what I'm saying. See the beauty of developing shared perspective and higher performance, whether local or nation, is to be able to bridge the mental gap of two or more different perspectives in order to create a better shared perspectives that are more scientifically accurate. If you can't see any validity in any varying information, you can't really lead people to a positive end. Your just pushing an unvetted, uncritically examined, ideological perspective that you don't know makes sense because you haven't played devils advocate. If you can't understand the "others" perspective you can't even truly understand your own perspective. Just saying!

People’s Group-Oriented Moral Values 

Let me sort of conclude with this study...

"Our results, from these U.S. based studies, suggest that moral values oriented around group preservation are predictive of the county-level prevalence of hate groups and associated with the belief that extreme behavioral expressions of prejudice against marginalized groups are justified. Additional analyses suggest that the association between group-based moral values and EBEPs against outgroups can be partly explained by the belief that these groups have done something morally wrong." (Atari, et. al, 2021, Abstract, para 1.) (Hmmmm, makes you think. 🤔💁)

When we look at the section below I'm debating if I'm understanding correctly because it seems to indicate that hate gravitates toward local and social by nature. That is what I see but the authors may intend something else so I'm curious if they have input on that. It doesn't mean they have more insight because research is limited by scope, but they do note that future research is needed to understand this  variance.

Discussion section, para 1,

"Even though we argue that local spatial smoothing is the more appropriate analysis for our data because (1) neither binding values nor hate groups are meaningfully constrained by state boundaries and (2) fixed effects estimators are likely to be underpowered when applied to data with low within-group variation, we note that, when state-fixed effects were added to the model, the relationship between binding values and the rate of hate groups was not distinguishable from null (Atari, et. al. 2021, Discussion para 1)."

Discussion section, para 2,

"These results suggest that the association between binding values and justifying acts of hate depends, at least partially, on people’s perceptions of outgroup moral violations. In Studies 2 and 3, we found that this association was positively mediated by PMW for two marginalized groups in the U.S. context, Muslims (Study 2) and Mexican immigrants (Study 3), even after adjusting for participants’ political ideology. (Atari, et. al. 2021. Discussion Para 2.)"

One might wonder if the Capital Riots were a collective of semi associated, ideologically aligned, partially coordinated (..except probably a central group and maybe another more formal one in the background.) funneling of local hate into a collective result that might have thrown our country into serious chaos and could potentially have ended the long running 250 year democratic experiment (I mean for some its not really a big deal so we just sort of think of such things as tailgate parties and toga parties that got out of hand.

I talked to what I believe in hindsight was an extremist once on the phone. He was so angry he denigrated the dead, insinuated all Muslims are terrorists and said that people around here don't care about people like that as he referred to the dead person's dark skinned race. A kind of all encompassing hate with different targets. He felt very secure in his beliefs and confident in sharing those beliefs with me. I politely stated that I'm very happy his kind lost the Civil War. He hung up.

Such rage likely has a mental health component and I think there would be studies to show that connection of pathology and behavioral outcomes. Its an uphill battle to get decision makers to see the connection between hate and mental health. Some of it might be based on empathy capacity and with the right environment we can grow these seedlings of moral conscious and compass. This is why I advocated for the perpetrators to be require to have a mental health evaluation. I'm aware that one, if not more, have a diagnosable mental health issue which I believe is a contributing factor in their displayed and observed behaviors.

Going back to the disgruntled attorney their aspirations of greatness and daddy's help, might go on someday, when he gets more experience, to have an important role in one of our institutions as a judge making decisions over people that he despises and in which he would like to removed for "soiling" his society. In our current distorted wisdom, we might go on to assume that this person is not going to make fair and impartial decisions over others he belittles no matter how much he can fake it while people are looking. Bias goes a long way in outcomes. We now have the capacity to check into such things but it takes years of unempathetic damage to build a case.

Stopping hate before it gets out of hand has its merits for society and for our institution integrity, growth and stability. Its hard to sell liberty politically sometimes because the centuries of deep human sacrifice to get us where we are today cannot fit into a jingle or slogan. We owe it to the next generation to finish our fathers, grandfathers, and national founders work of freedom; even if it doesn't fit into a catchy tune. That is here, that is everyone within our country. I'm a believer in democracy and liberty. I have also put in my time the best I can to support the pillars of our democracy. I can't say that for everyone.)

Let us look at this study a little more to see who likely would engage in hate and the hate narrative.

Discussion Section, Para, 4,

"Accordingly, our results suggest that people who attribute moral violations to an outgroup may be at higher risk for justifying, or perhaps even expressing, extreme prejudice toward outgroups; however, our results also suggest that people who prioritize the binding values may be particularly susceptible to this dynamic when they perceive a violation of ingroup loyalty, respect for authority, and physical or spiritual purity. In this sense, our findings are consistent with the hypothesis that acts of hate—a class of behaviors of which many have received their own special legal designation as particularly heinous crimes4—are partly motivated by individuals’ moral beliefs. This view is well-grounded in current understandings of the relationship between morality and acts of extremism or violence."(Atari, et. al. 2021, Discussion Para 4.)

I'm a light right Republican, not a politician, and I have become someone saddened by the far right and left ideologies that do not take into account the greater needs of society. If we are going to make it through our transformational hump as a nation that wants to compete at a top game level, we will need to find a better way to effectively handle those who only want a small sliver of society to receive its benefits; whether or not they earned it. We have a responsibility to go to the next stage in democratic and national development. Motivating the masses with fair treatment and opportunity is one of the best things we can do (The devils in the details of course.)

Good thing such grotesque behaviors are seen by some as an impossibility in modern life. Maybe a fictious fable to scare adults and kids alike into appropriate social expectations of appropriate personal association that excludes "those people". (Perhaps a modern version of Hansel and Gretel ? Beyond all stories is a piece of truth. Most people can't see it or reflect on the essential message of such stories.) . The problem is that "those people" are more a figment of their selective imagination than a reflection of observational accuracy.  Monkey Blindness, Morality, and Monkeys Teach Social Rules and one of my favorites Does Hyper-Politics Limit Freedom of Speech, Knowledge Sharing, and National Development?.

What me might wonder is whether corruption wins or not in this situation? I can't be sure, but it does appear there are no local backstops when justice defaults. So, there can only be three main outcomes and each one determines our values as a people and in some ways our nation through I suppose the outcomes of a long line of choices based on such thinking. Decision making is never truly isolated to one location but connects a series of choices together that leads to specific short and long term outcomes. We can't profess one thing and do another because it impacts not only our present state of cultural chaos but also our future cultural stability (Sociological and Economic). Each of the three rabbit holes is a reflective choice; albeit not an easy one.

If I make a probably selection based on history alone and some of the witness experiences of others in society I might see defaults of oaths, values, and justice. If I go by those who are starting to see the errors of their prior choices and how those outcomes impact communities, and even the nation, then we might say today we might turn a new leaf. (Its just my perspective. I bet there are a lot of people who disagree and agree what the role of justice should be in preserving our essential American values. I have my own esoteric beliefs about the values of life and the value of democracy. Others have their beliefs about that and who is invited to the democratic table of opportunity. An unexamined component might be, why are not all the craftsman who built that table invited to eat on it and is that a collective community table or does that belong to a particular group?)

Hoover J, Atari M, Mostafazadeh Davani A, Kennedy B, Portillo-Wightman G, Yeh L, Dehghani M. Investigating the role of group-based morality in extreme behavioral expressions of prejudice. Nat Commun. 2021 Jul 28;12(1):4585. doi: 10.1038/s41467-021-24786-2. PMID: 34321479; PMCID: PMC8319297. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8319297/


Sunday, June 4, 2023

Art Market in Butchertown Louisville KY (The Value of the Art Industry)

Having some time to waste this Sunday I went down to Butchertown Art Fair. Found a couple of cool things. I have a small good works business so I am always looking for things I can sort of find value in. I met a guy who carves printing casts. That may allow me to brand some packaging and a few small items for the virtual store. Its not my product but a cheap way to sort of get a few novelty items to be print on demand for customers. Maybe send a sweatshirt out when someone makes a larger order.

In general, you will notice these markets pop up in either trendy or high end neighborhoods. They are sources of creativity and sometimes you can get really good ideas from them. 

Apparently the market for art is 68 billion U.S. dollars 2022 by Statista (I don't know how they calculate so I can't tell you about accuracy).





Saturday, June 3, 2023

May Job Increases: What the experts are saying?

The economy added 339K jobs up from the 195K expected. Wages haven't risen much and economists are a little confused and one can't blame them (I'm confused too. I have a theory that might sort of explain it but its not finished and there is no guarantee it explains anything. I can write it and provide justification but its eventually others that determine its validity.). Here is what I say and I might be completely wrong. I'm disappointed by low increases in wages and I would hope that middle class wages rise and such rises are augmented by new technologies and techniques. Raising the value of the American worker to the top of wage earners spot in the global supply chain (There has been some work on the global supply chain recently so we should see some future increases in American manufacturing jobs).

(Middle class wealth would likely come from better human capital development/universalization, stronger educational approaches{got a few good ideas that seem to be functioning. There is more in the developmental stages of education through natural interest competency learning. Just an idea. Its used in gifted education and could be used in an online setting for average students. It might also increase retention when content is more catered to natural interests and better information packaging} Anway......also more emphasis on creative abilities augmented by technology to research, build, and manufacture new products.}

The numbers since COVID have not really made a lot of sense and I believe a pendulum swung more onto the virtual side so there are new unknown factors hidden in plain site. One possible explanation, which I'm only saying its about 38+% true in some form (I could be wrong as well.), is that we are going through an economic platform shift. A platform shift means that the measurements we used during the Industrial Era reflect partially accurate information based on older physical paradigm assumptions of manufacturing and work (i.e. Wealth of Nations in a complete physical world). 

The digital era is much more global, fast paced, has AI implementation, and many more transactions when compared to prior eras. The metrics would change based on the new way of interacting and exchanging information, resources and output through complex interwoven global networks (i.e. economics as a psychology of choices among large bodies of people. macroeconomics from bartering chickens at your local market to genetically making chickens and selling them to someone across the globe in a few seconds. There are differences in the assumptions and thus there should be a variance in new models to encompass this.)

Basically, if we are not leaking resources to other countries and/or factors(which we likely are) we might find wages starting to rise through the use of technology that improves productivity and functionality. Furthermore, mixed data are not wrong, they just are not being modeled properly (i.e. Hayek and Schumpeter) because they are anchored to older economic paradigms (They were accurate for their era based on our understanding of the science of economics and are still somewhat, but slightly less so, in the digital era. As the digital era developments transform our economic landscape new adjustments, tweaks and even divergent theories are likely. The global race..."its on Donkey Kong!" For Millennials they probably don't know how cutting edge we were when computers came out in my teens. You can play Donkey Kong free! I mean, its not VR but whatever! We were cool! Some of us coded this stuff! 🤷. Think of what 30 years did to games. Now do that much development in 1/2, 1/4 or 1/6 the time! Rapid development theories are needed that blend the creative destruction Schumpeter with the focused macro approach of Hayek). The digital era will adjust those assumptions and help explain those wonky numbers and will likely make more sense in 5 years after economists study, analyze and publish more post COVID economic data and trends.

Yikes soap box! Below is a thorough explanation. Read all of the economist projections and you will see the variety of opinions. From a group level, economists are not 100% sure they understand what they are seeing. No one can be 100% accurate, but basic assumptions are being challenged. Some are saying that a recession is coming and some say no. I believe that the end of the year will likely have higher growth as businesses settle into new geopolitical-economic status que based on the rapid increase in virtual mixed business model development (i.e. settling into what works) pushed about 10+ years prior then when it would normally happen in  more gradual pace because of a pandemic. We might be looking at a recession so I could be wrong (It doesn't make my theory wrong, its just a prediction based on business, human, and global economic development. I just used other research from a number of sources and piecemeal it to explain an amebic understanding I had that wasn't justified. The likely pressures created from trends and how they would adapt and react. Stupid really! ..but it has been somewhat accurate.)

Jobs Report Shows Hiring Surge in May: What the Experts Are Saying

Friday, June 2, 2023

Biden gives remarks on raising of debt ceiling after negotiations with GOP

This is an interesting speech by the President. I would agree that default and shocking the system would have been an issue. I do believe that creating net positives, ensuring efficiency/effective use of taxpayer dollars. Both parties pulled together and got it passes. I was honestly impressed because I didn't think they could have done in. There is a lot more work on debt to do but it is about revamping programs around key focus and then using resources to create new resources that improve our tax base and financial position. I also believe these resources should be invested in places that make us the most competitive we can be as a nation. Sometimes social programs are good and sometimes they are not but I don't always think the metrics are good. Those programs that truly help should be kept and those that do not should be rethought to ensure they are functioning well and using resources well. Otherwise we might consider investing that money in other places.

I mean not everything I agree with but this did seem to be on the surface a bi-partisan win. 

Should We Forgive Those who Cause Hate and Those Who Support? (The Purpose of a Hate Narrative)

The unequivocable answer is yes forgiveness is the best approach but it comes with the responsibility not to forget and to push the aspects that are broken in our system to correct themselves so as to lower the velocity and propensity of hate. We owe it to the next generation to build the best justice system we can and not be derailed in that effort of innovating the system.  The people who engage in hate based behaviors often do so for self interested reasons. Such behaviors may be on the rise and there are certain aspects that we don't yet see as risks.

Most of us are well aware of the differences between mistakes and intentional malicious behaviors. We can find these intentions in real life. Law is a reflection of truth, not the truth itself, and thus greater care of ensuring legislation can handle coordinated incidents of hate and hate speech are helpful. In other words, the intent of the law (universal application) is more important than its technicalities (subjective application) to bring about a universal concept of justice.

The problem with hate is that there is an underlining assumptions that outsiders/"other"/out-groups have lower value and thus deserving of lower status and treatment (It doesn't matter their contributions, service, or much else. Its funny, if you change the environment the assumptions change. Its like walking into a Steven King novel where some mystical fog clouds everyone's rationality.). That is particularly more true when there are racial, religious, and social difference between the hate members and the targets (Degrees of difference can actually be calculated). It is easy to discount others when the rewards of upholding the essential values of the law are lower when compared to following one's social network.

Unfortunately, because clan systems sometimes function as shadow groups in order to help one's own, we sometimes run into a problem of a confounding variables within their decision making. (Confounding is the perceived connection between cause and effect that is mitigated by a another factor.). The assumptions of cause and effect that would normally dictate rationality are often filtered through a maze of personal and group bias so that they no longer reflect reality (i.e. social constructionism of understanding that is different when compared to fact. Its a type of group delusion based on personal bias and lack of exposure to difference)

(These collective outcomes are interesting because if there is an existence of a homogeneous clan that spans a number of institutions i.e rogue-extremist leaning officers and local job recruitment within another institution then we might find through analysis secondary data markers. i.e. hiring bias to in-group members, different forms of justice outcomes, "clickish" and "clannish" social behaviors, and other forms that indicate association through multiple venues of behaviors. 

It would take a while to think of all the ways you could show a coordinated group. through different venues and locations. Such groups intentionally support people within their social circles. We sometimes call this the "good old boy" networks. While it may exist in subtle form in most local towns, there is a point where it crosses a threshold to impact others rights. When its done intentionally with knowledge such groups can become malicious and in turn seen as having malicious intent.)

It should be remember that most atrocities of targeting often set the stage by creating justification for further hate by diminishing the rights and dignity of the targets. As these groups make up stories to help their network it is often directed at lowering the targets and in turn creating more hate through intentional rumor spreading and manipulation of information. Hate is a tool designed to lower, control, and self enrich off of perceived differences. Consider Words That Harm: Defending the Dignity Approach to Hate Speech Regulation

Absolutely forgive, but be mindful that these problems can arise again without better capabilities in handling them. I advocate for a better understanding of how hate limits our potential as a nation through the stifling of human capital. I believe our nation needs all of its young and bright minds engaged and that comes from universal application of law based on our shared values and American beliefs. That applies here, there or anywhere. Its an American value of equality thing! You might not get it, if you have a different understanding of our core purpose of "liberty and justice" as a nation as a people. 

Unemployment Applications Tick Upward, 10.1 million new jobs, Tech Layoffs and Reshoring

232,000 unemployment benefits applications for the week ending May 27 ticked upward. The article US applications for unemployment benefits tick up slightly as labor market remains healthy discusses the concepts and states that the U.S. economy added 10.1 million job openings at a time when unemployment is low (You would think this would create upward pressure on wages?). 

Increase jobs at a time when unemployment is low will likely put some emphasis on the need to increase production as well as find creative ways of lattice supply chain development where U.S. workers are at the highest return on value location in the production system.

Tech industry had some recent lay offs but it appears that at this point the market can still absorb most of those workers. I have a friend in the tech industry that got hit a week or so ago with a lay off notice. He says that the market is global so if he can't find a job in the U.S. he may relocate to Europe. His assessment is that the market is still ok but he would need to be flexible with the type of work he finds.

Unemployment by State. Michigan 3.8%

Metropolitan Area Employment and Unemployment Summary May 31st, 2023

After reviewing the unemployment rates one can also then consider how offshoring is contributing to this 10.1 million job openings. I could go on and on about why that might be happening from a transactional economic approach but it is ultimately a result of changes in the market winds and some of that comes from increased pace of transactions globally through digital transformation.

Thursday, June 1, 2023

Delta County MI Solar Presentation (May 23rd, 2023) : Presentation, Questions, Farm Animals, Tesla and Redundant Electrical Grids!

Tesla: Life and Legacy
Representing the underpinnings of an era.
Most of the meeting was lecture style presentation on solar panel multi use farming. Some of the questions from the attendees related more to ordinances, property values, annexation and contamination. What is interesting is that they brought in a solar expert to help inform people of some of the risks and benefits of solar farming. That helps to create better decision making because residents then have an opportunity to make informed decisions on those things that impact their community and lives. Likewise, you will see people discuss energy diversity and nuclear power. Many of these local issues will likely have parallels in other locations as they pertain to concerns, processes, and discussions of the new emerging Digital Era (i.e. electric cars, nano technology, robotics, space flight, etc.)

We are electrifying our nation and I generally support those efforts because they are renewable and they provide a rich alternative source of energy (They recently became a net positive and will likely increase in their benefit with development). Each community must have an open discussion on what they want and then make a decision as a unit. In that, information must be transparent and forthcoming to make decisions. Democracy works best when people can make informed decisions based on what they think is most helpful for themselves and their society. Lack of accurate information creates problems with effective strategic decision making. 

(From my economics perspectiveI would have liked to see more forecasting of trends within the market. For example, the presentation was on solar itself but what that might look like for this area in 5, 10, 20 years might be difficult but would put a current decision in connection to a strategic line of thinking. There was some referral to the Master Plan. See Maximizing the Influence of Your Forecast)

An idea popped into my head while I was writing this (Its rare but sometimes a descent thought makes its way through the mush into something I can formalize in to actual words. Just after drooling out of the side of my mouth. 🤷). I do believe that some of that energy from solar farms should be designated to the local area/municipalities to create redundancy in the system that protects against future rolling blackouts and/or energy disruptions. 

In a local primary customer approach when issues arise, the residents can rely on local energy supply to make it through the black out/disruption and then revert back over to the regular regional grid when regular power service has been restored (customers wouldn't see a disruption). Likewise, I think some of our local industries might benefit from general grid independence that comes from having local input into some of our local utility approaches (i.e. water treatment, electricity, etc.). 

Preference in local energy before feeding the larger regional grid would be beneficial in general to connecting the benefits directly to the peoples energy security but also to potential reduced costs when one can switch to the lowest cost provider when needed (i.e. solar is a larger sunk initial cost with costs being made up over time, other forms of energy are ongoing cost/benefit. This is also why I want to see the projections.)

Notes: (I only took a few as most was a presentation by MSU prof. I try to be accurate so if there is something that isn't correct please leave a message on the post and I will adjust if it seems to make sense.)

MI. Healthy Carbon Plan that seeks carbon neutrality by 2050.  MI Healthy Climate Plan. There is a lot of interesting stuff in the plan. I only briefed through it so you may want to spend a few minutes and gloss through its main points. These plans influence how policies and strategic initiatives of the state impact choices and decisions to make them realized.

-Investment of solar and batteries and other electric infrastructure. Some of the utilities companies have also created carbon reduction. Grazing and forage production and other options in duel use. Create ordinances that support farming and entrepreneurs.  (I don't mind the farm animals, its the people I'm more concerned about! 😂🙊💨)

-A couple of good questions came forward. One of which is contamination. Referred back to the master plan and where there may be restrictions on solar panels. Someone brought up a good argument about locals receiving some benefit from solar panels. The Prof in this case stated it would be pooled. I think if they reworked these in some way so a percentage of energy was used to help power local businesses and homes it would create greater benefit and salability to local communities. 

-Some discussion on rolling blackouts and some legislation on energy discounts to communities.

-One comm discussed in significant length on farms. 

-Discussion on the value of property when these large farms go in. 

-Resident felt that one person is making all the decisions and its against what people want. 

-Wants people to look at different sources of information. Wants nuclear energy.